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Evil Catbert
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Posted - 2009.01.14 17:05:00 -
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Please leave version 2 of the shader in place. This covers a majority of your users out there with computers that are living on borrowed time.
Those that will be cut off from EVE by a very old version of shader really need to think if their Pentium 1 really meets their needs anymore. I doubt they could run the latest version of Quicken.
Making EVE a single engine client would be better in the long run because we won't have to wait nearly as long for fixes or new content. |

Evil Catbert
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Posted - 2009.01.15 21:18:00 -
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Time for change people. We don't live in the stone age. Stop complaining about the new requirements. Either get on board or don't.
If you can't afford the $10-$30 cards (that's for AGP and PCI Express cards) than need to rethink why you pay for EVE. If you use GTC in game you have plenty of cash saved to buy the damn graphics card.
I would recommend those that want to run 5-10 clients on 1 PC need to rethink their strategy. Either buy or build a machine that can easily handle a load like that.
Don't blame CCP because you are too stupid to realize it. This especially goes for all those teenage whiners out there.
Sit down, shut up and grow up. |

Evil Catbert
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Posted - 2009.01.15 22:10:00 -
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Edited by: Evil Catbert on 15/01/2009 22:14:25
Originally by: Green Looter
Eve playing grandfather giving constructive advice to the kids ?
I'm not a grandfather. Not by a long shot. I'm only in my late 20s.
I normally don't even post to these forums for the fact that most of the time the posts are complete gibberish. It just annoys me to read all these posts about how CCP wants to ruin the game or alienate its clients. Mostly it was just an outburst aimed toward those idiots. Feel free to do the same.
As for CCP's decision to change the client, I'm all for it. I only recommend that they maintain SM2 at minimum only because it is the most common shader on graphics cards made within the last few years. I have no doubt that given another year or two that SM3 will be as common as SM2 was and the base code can reflect that.
I will assist those that have problems reading.
Originally by: Evil Catbert If you can't afford the $10-$30 cards (that's for AGP and PCI Express cards) than need to rethink why you pay for EVE. If you use GTC in game you have plenty of cash saved to buy the damn graphics card.
There shouldn't be any trouble updating desktop machines to SM2. Those with laptops are the ones that have more issues that can't be handled here. |

Evil Catbert
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Posted - 2009.01.15 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Green Looter I understand your not a gradfather they usely don't struck down on their kids just because some got less money...
For children such as yourself, I assume that your only means of playing EVE is with GTCs. If that is the case than maybe you could use some of your birthday money and buy a graphics card. I would also recommend the use of a spell checker. |

Evil Catbert
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Posted - 2009.01.15 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Milla Jovo
Originally by: Evil Catbert Time for change people.
$10-$30 cards (that's for AGP and PCI Express cards)
Can please past a link to the 10 to 30 USD agp card with sm3. I have been looking and the cheapest is 89 USD
Try looking again at SM2 cards and make sure you know which type of graphics card slot is in your PC. I never said these were SM3 cards.
SM2 is the minimum requirement that CCP has posted. My suggestion was for SM2 cards since they are dirt cheap and make a quick fix.
I would recommend saving up for SM3 cards since it will only be a matter of time before they become the minimum requirement. Saving $1 a week for 1 year gives you more than enough money to pay for a new card with the latest GPUs. By the time CCP is ready to make SM3 the minimum requirement, graphics cards with the needed specifications should be fairly cheap by then.
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Evil Catbert
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Posted - 2009.01.15 23:11:00 -
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Edited by: Evil Catbert on 15/01/2009 23:11:57
Originally by: Milla Jovo GeForce 6 Series GPUs all have SM3 support.
OK so any 6 series or better, that removes some of the confusion. Now why didnt CCP say something like that in the first place.
The wiki page that CCP points to makes it easy to see which GPUs are compatible.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel_shader
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Evil Catbert
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Posted - 2009.01.16 17:47:00 -
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I would recommend CCP use an EVE specific version of this type of hardware survey. Steam Hardware Survey
This is a very poor comment to make in the development of any software - "What we don't know is exactly how many. We estimate that about 95% of all subscribers currently have hardware that is SM2 compatible."
CCP "estimates" the hardware specification for a user base with no actual way to measure it. If I saw a survey published and the numbers support their "estimate" then I will agree that a change to specifications may be needed.
Since no survey was conducted and no findings reported than CCP's estimate has a error of ¦100%
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